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		<title>By: the Rocket</title>
		<link>http://www.allhabs.net/uncategorized/habs-prospects-battle-in-classic-canadau-s-game/#comment-856</link>
		<dc:creator>the Rocket</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 01:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is bizarre that you argue that Latendresse deserves recognition simply because &quot;He IS IN THE NHL, and has been for the past 3 seasons&quot;.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;There is no dispute that the only reason that Latendresse has been in the NHL for 3 years because the Canadiens brass made a HUGE mistake with his development.  Perhaps there is no bigger single mistake that they made with any one player.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;And there is also consensus that Latendresse has not developed at all in those 3 years.  In fact, some say he has regressed.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;As far as McDonagh, would you prefer that he was one-dimensional like Mark Streit?  Just because McDonagh is responsible at both ends of the ice with no glaring weaknesses doesn&#039;t make him &quot;a bland Everyman&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is bizarre that you argue that Latendresse deserves recognition simply because &#8220;He IS IN THE NHL, and has been for the past 3 seasons&#8221;.</p>
<p>There is no dispute that the only reason that Latendresse has been in the NHL for 3 years because the Canadiens brass made a HUGE mistake with his development.  Perhaps there is no bigger single mistake that they made with any one player.</p>
<p>And there is also consensus that Latendresse has not developed at all in those 3 years.  In fact, some say he has regressed.</p>
<p>As far as McDonagh, would you prefer that he was one-dimensional like Mark Streit?  Just because McDonagh is responsible at both ends of the ice with no glaring weaknesses doesn&#8217;t make him &#8220;a bland Everyman&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: rob</title>
		<link>http://www.allhabs.net/uncategorized/habs-prospects-battle-in-classic-canadau-s-game/#comment-848</link>
		<dc:creator>rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 18:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t think I&#039;m &quot;giving Latendresse the benefit of the doubt&quot; in terms of his progress at a young age. He IS IN THE NHL, and has been for the past 3 seasons. I do think he has a lot more upside than most 21 year olds by virtue of his size. It generally takes bigger players longer to realize their potential.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;McDonagh is average (or slightly below average) in terms of his size, and shows no outstanding skill. He isn&#039;t that good with the puck (third string PP on his college team), isn&#039;t particularly physical, doesn&#039;t drop the gloves. He is just a bland Everyman, who at best will neutralize the other team&#039;s player. If he was drafted in the third or fourth round that would be O.K., but Timmins took him in the top half of the first round and tried to convince everyone that he stole the guy there.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;m &#8220;giving Latendresse the benefit of the doubt&#8221; in terms of his progress at a young age. He IS IN THE NHL, and has been for the past 3 seasons. I do think he has a lot more upside than most 21 year olds by virtue of his size. It generally takes bigger players longer to realize their potential.</p>
<p>McDonagh is average (or slightly below average) in terms of his size, and shows no outstanding skill. He isn&#8217;t that good with the puck (third string PP on his college team), isn&#8217;t particularly physical, doesn&#8217;t drop the gloves. He is just a bland Everyman, who at best will neutralize the other team&#8217;s player. If he was drafted in the third or fourth round that would be O.K., but Timmins took him in the top half of the first round and tried to convince everyone that he stole the guy there.</p>
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		<title>By: Habster</title>
		<link>http://www.allhabs.net/uncategorized/habs-prospects-battle-in-classic-canadau-s-game/#comment-847</link>
		<dc:creator>Habster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 16:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s not like we&#039;re talking about a first and fifth round pick here.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;We&#039;re dealing with the 12th pick(McDonagh) and 45th pick (Latendresse).&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Regardless of where they were selected, there&#039;s no denying we shouldn&#039;t pass judgement on any 19 year old player until he&#039;s had 2-3 years to further develop.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Will Latendresse be another Keith  Tkachuk or Cam Neely, not likely. Will he be a very good third line player, at this point in time I think he will.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Will McDonagh be another Chris Chelios, probably not. Will he be a quality top four NHL defensemen, most likely.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;It&#039;s fun to evaluate players but it&#039;s a crap shoot at best when they&#039;re 19 years old.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not like we&#8217;re talking about a first and fifth round pick here.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re dealing with the 12th pick(McDonagh) and 45th pick (Latendresse).</p>
<p>Regardless of where they were selected, there&#8217;s no denying we shouldn&#8217;t pass judgement on any 19 year old player until he&#8217;s had 2-3 years to further develop.</p>
<p>Will Latendresse be another Keith  Tkachuk or Cam Neely, not likely. Will he be a very good third line player, at this point in time I think he will.</p>
<p>Will McDonagh be another Chris Chelios, probably not. Will he be a quality top four NHL defensemen, most likely.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s fun to evaluate players but it&#8217;s a crap shoot at best when they&#8217;re 19 years old.</p>
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		<title>By: rob</title>
		<link>http://www.allhabs.net/uncategorized/habs-prospects-battle-in-classic-canadau-s-game/#comment-846</link>
		<dc:creator>rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 08:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Latendresse was a mid second round pick, McDonagh was a high first round pick.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I consider him &quot;overrated&quot; in comparison to his draft position. I wasn&#039;t a fan of the pick at the time (or any other Minnesota high schooler, for that matter) and nothing has happened in the past 18 months to change my perception. At least we didn&#039;t get screw up as badly as the Vancouver Canucks, who wasted their first rounder on Patrick White out of the Minnesota H.S. system.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Latendresse was a mid second round pick, McDonagh was a high first round pick.</p>
<p>I consider him &#8220;overrated&#8221; in comparison to his draft position. I wasn&#8217;t a fan of the pick at the time (or any other Minnesota high schooler, for that matter) and nothing has happened in the past 18 months to change my perception. At least we didn&#8217;t get screw up as badly as the Vancouver Canucks, who wasted their first rounder on Patrick White out of the Minnesota H.S. system.</p>
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		<title>By: Habster</title>
		<link>http://www.allhabs.net/uncategorized/habs-prospects-battle-in-classic-canadau-s-game/#comment-841</link>
		<dc:creator>Habster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2009 02:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey Rob,&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I don&#039;t understand why you give other players like Guillaume Latendresse the benefit of doubt when it pertains to how young they are, give them time to develop,yet you won&#039;t give Ryan McDonagh the same benefit.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;He&#039;s only 19 years old and is still developing as a player, something Gui took almost three years to do as a forward on top of that!!&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Rob, you are fully aware that it takes most defensemen a few  years to fully develop. Defense is a much harder position to learn especially in the pro ranks.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I saw a very steady two way game from McDonagh during the WJC tournament and he didn&#039;t  look out of place against his best peer in the world. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;On numerous occasions, he demonstrated his great skating stride and out skated some pretty nible forwards.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Give him more time like you did with Gui.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Happy New Year!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Rob,</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t understand why you give other players like Guillaume Latendresse the benefit of doubt when it pertains to how young they are, give them time to develop,yet you won&#8217;t give Ryan McDonagh the same benefit.</p>
<p>He&#8217;s only 19 years old and is still developing as a player, something Gui took almost three years to do as a forward on top of that!!</p>
<p>Rob, you are fully aware that it takes most defensemen a few  years to fully develop. Defense is a much harder position to learn especially in the pro ranks.</p>
<p>I saw a very steady two way game from McDonagh during the WJC tournament and he didn&#8217;t  look out of place against his best peer in the world. </p>
<p>On numerous occasions, he demonstrated his great skating stride and out skated some pretty nible forwards.</p>
<p>Give him more time like you did with Gui.</p>
<p>Happy New Year!!!</p>
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		<title>By: rob</title>
		<link>http://www.allhabs.net/uncategorized/habs-prospects-battle-in-classic-canadau-s-game/#comment-838</link>
		<dc:creator>rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 21:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think it is fairly obvious at this point that Timmins and company really overrated McDonagh in the 2007 draft. Subban is looking like a good find, but will become part of a real logjam of offensively inclined right handed defense prospects in the system. Mathieu Carle is probably ready to play in the NHL, but due to a couple of exhibition season injuries the past two seasons has been passed by the very similar Yannick Weber. Now you have Subban coming along, to be followed shortly by Philippe Paquet, David Fischer, Joe Stejskal, and Greg Pateryn, out of the college ranks.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The college prospects are bigger, and not as offensively inclined, but they are all right side defenders, and all have NHL potential in my opinion. Some of them for sure are going to have their development stifled because Timmins got carried away with drafting right handed shooters over the past few years.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it is fairly obvious at this point that Timmins and company really overrated McDonagh in the 2007 draft. Subban is looking like a good find, but will become part of a real logjam of offensively inclined right handed defense prospects in the system. Mathieu Carle is probably ready to play in the NHL, but due to a couple of exhibition season injuries the past two seasons has been passed by the very similar Yannick Weber. Now you have Subban coming along, to be followed shortly by Philippe Paquet, David Fischer, Joe Stejskal, and Greg Pateryn, out of the college ranks.</p>
<p>The college prospects are bigger, and not as offensively inclined, but they are all right side defenders, and all have NHL potential in my opinion. Some of them for sure are going to have their development stifled because Timmins got carried away with drafting right handed shooters over the past few years.</p>
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